Questions/requests regarding the new FlexPendant

Newman
Newman Sweden
edited May 30 in OmniCore
Hi
After some weeks with the new OmniCore FlexPendant I have a few questions/requests.
1. Is it possible to lock the screen orientation? (stop automatic flipping between horisontal/portrait view). Very annoying when crawling around setting work object for example.
2. Make the jog speed slider visible when jogging. Visualize screen pops up and cover the slider in current version.
3. Jog increment is not working properly. Won't change when switching between increments.
4. Debug->move PP to row is annoying. One must select the hole row otherwise its not possible to move PP to row. 
5. Overall the screen touch and feel is slow and lagging. Sometimes you have to press several times. Not a good sign when this is a brand new platform.

MOD EDIT: I made this thread a "sticky" so we can collect the feedback in one place. //Maxim
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David
Swedish freelance ABB robot programmer
Post edited by Maxim Riabichev on

Answers

  • Fritz
    Fritz Tallinn
    Point 1 is really annoying. I support the need for option to lock the rotation of the screen.

    I would add one more point to this list:
    6. Page closing option is working randomly. It seam's that you have to hold page button exactly correct amount of time to make "Close" menu to appear. Too short - nothing happens; too long - nothing happens. And sometimes nothing happens at all (RW 7.2).



  • Newman
    Newman Sweden
    I didn’t even know that there was a way you could close a window because for some reason there is no ”X” in the top right corner.
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    David
    Swedish freelance ABB robot programmer
  • Newman
    Newman Sweden
    I find quite often that it's impossible to find the program pointer on FlexPendant.
    Debug -> Cursor to PP doesn't work but same procedure in RobotStudio does. 
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    David
    Swedish freelance ABB robot programmer
  • Newman
    Newman Sweden
    Some more weeks has passed with the new FlexPendant and I must say it more and more feels like a disaster. Performance is so slow in general, often you have to wait after you press or even press several times, e.g. when switching between linear and reorient. Often its also impossible to find program pointer. When you spend your hole days with this thing you just want to throw it in the bin and go back to the old one. Function wise it’s ok but the performance sucks.
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    David
    Swedish freelance ABB robot programmer
  • Newman
    Newman Sweden
    Annoying: The selected I/O filter will disapear when switching between windows. Say you filter for "Favourite signals", then you go to Code window and back to I/O window, all I/O's will be shown again.

    Good news: Robotware 7.3 has made program pointer easier to find with the new "Program pointer location" function.
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    David
    Swedish freelance ABB robot programmer
  • Newman
    Newman Sweden
    edited September 16
    Very annoying that you get a notification and you need to acknowledge every triggered protective Stop (robot cell gate opened). Your "real" errors will drown in a sea of unacknowledged door openings.
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    David
    Swedish freelance ABB robot programmer
  • Like the image posted above, why is it a warning that abb's connected services is disabled?

    We as an integrator have sold a system and would like to provide future service and repairs the the customer.
    We don't want ABB's spyware on the systems we deliver.
    It's annoying it's considered a warning and it's also prominent on the sidebar menu. 

    I'm also curious if ABB sent these systems out to existing system integrators for review before launch. 
    I can't think of anyone who actually works with commissioning IRC5 systems that would think the omnicore system is an upgrade.  

    Like when integrating the system with a safety PLC combined with other equipment.
    The robot is reporting it's ES button triggered just because the safety PLC dosen't say ES Chain is ok?
    How am I supposed to reset the ES Chain if the robot reports it's button as triggered even when it's not?
    In a way that's compliant with safety regulations?

    Currently I have to (as a work-around, I have no clue if it's allowed) reset the ES Chain ONLY to the robot. Check if it's button status changes from triggered to OK. And only then reset the ES Chain to all equipment. 
    It's so stupid.
  • Newman
    Newman Sweden
    @Tompanhuhu:
    I agree 100%. We had to do the same stupid workaround with the ES.

    Regarding the spyware, I finally found a setting somewhere in system parameters to disable connected services and then the warnings disappeared.

    We as integrators don’t have time with this kind of nonsense. I think the best place to bring these things up are in the ABB programming Facebook group, cause I know a lot of ABB people follows it. This forum only get attension from RobotStudio developers, and they do the best they can to support us, but when it comes to these kind of topics their hands are tied so to speak. 
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    David
    Swedish freelance ABB robot programmer
  • Hey guys,

    I hear your frustration.

    While we value your opinions on these FlexPendant issues, David does have a point in saying that these forums are mainly monitored by employees at ABB who work with the RobotStudio product, unfortunately. That is why there is no "UpFeed" section for any other product than RobotStudio.

    My advice would be to contact your local ABB and report these issues as product defects. They will in turn raise them with R&D, and hopefully, they can be resolved quickly.

    Thanks and best regards,
    Maxim

    Maxim Riabichev
    PC Software Support Engineer
  • Fritz
    Fritz Tallinn
    edited September 21

    Like when integrating the system with a safety PLC combined with other equipment.
    The robot is reporting it's ES button triggered just because the safety PLC dosen't say ES Chain is ok?
    How am I supposed to reset the ES Chain if the robot reports it's button as triggered even when it's not?

    I totally agree that this is a big issue.
    This will prevent ABB robot integration into lines where external safety PLC is used. There is possible to make workaround, if line has only one robot, but with multiple robots it's impossible.
    ABB lost a deal as our customer choosed different robot because of that. Local ABB office was unable to provide any solutions.

    My personal proposal to ABB development team is following: as X15 connector has more unused contacts, provide additional two-channel output safety signal about status of ONLY emergency button(s), regardless of incoming emergency signal from connector X14.

  • Newman
    Newman Sweden
    @Tompanhuhu
    This is the setting to disable the warning for connected services: 

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    David
    Swedish freelance ABB robot programmer
  • Tompanhuhu
    Tompanhuhu Sweden
    Anyone else have issues with the flexpendant restarting faster than the robotcontroller and fails login?
    And then having to manually login after every power up / warmstart. 
  • Newman
    Newman Sweden
    Anyone else have issues with the flexpendant restarting faster than the robotcontroller and fails login?
    And then having to manually login after every power up / warmstart. 
    Yes, this happens all the time. I had to explain to the customer that after warmstarts they have to restart flexpendant again separately 🤦‍♂️
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    David
    Swedish freelance ABB robot programmer