5.13.02 - rapid editor won't start

jasvap

Hi all,

 

I just upgraded to the new version of RobotStudio. I don't really know if the problem is related to this version only but when I load a very big 3D environment ( close to end of memory ) I can't open the rapid editor anymore. It tries to, but just when it opens the file it crashes.

The fault I get is that I do not have write acces, but that isn't true. I've used RobotStudio for quiet a long time now, and the error it gives me isn't correct. It really has something to do with memory problems. Maybe the people of ABB can check this.

 

Some other request for future updates:

 

I could realy use some short cuts to change between world, local, ... instead of having to change it by clicking in the menu bar.

 

Another issue, when you make a standalone viewer, and you open it when it is completed with RobotStudio still running, RobotStudio becomes unstable!!!

 

Importing SolidWorks files at once also would be nice, instead of only sat and step files

 

But more important, being able to export your entire environment after you possitioned everything to work correctly with your robot. Cause then we could easily measure everthing or make drawings of it in programs like SolidWorks.

 

Please, please, please, add some of the above things to RobotStudio to make working withit even better.

 

Thanks a lot

Steven

Henrik Berlin

[Quote=jasvap]...  when I load a very big 3D environment ( close to end of memory ) I can't open the rapid editor anymore. It tries to, but just when it opens the file it crashes. The fault I get is that I do not have write access, but that isn't true. I've used RobotStudio for quiet a long time now, and the error it gives me isn't correct. It really has something to do with memory problems.[/QUOTE]

Are you running Windows XP or 7? How much RAM do you have? RobotStudio might run into trouble for large stations. You can try and reduce the size of the station by removing the geometry and/or reducing the detail level of your imported CAD-models. Is there anything in the support log about the problem? Please upload it in that case so that we can have a look.

[Quote=jasvap]I could really use some short cuts to change between world, local, ... instead of having to change it by clicking in the menu bar.[/QUOTE]

Are you referring to the Freehand section of the Home tab or the Set Position dialog or something else?

[Quote=jasvap]

Another issue, when you make a standalone viewer, and you open it when it is completed with RobotStudio still running, RobotStudio becomes unstable!!! [/Quote]

I have not heard about this before. Upload the error log so that we can take a look at it.

[Quote=jasvap]Importing SolidWorks files at once also would be nice, instead of only sat and step files[/Quote]

The CAD kernel and the converters in RobotStudio use a 3rd party component called ACIS from Spatial. SW uses a different kernel (Parasolid). The reason ABB do not provide a converter for the Parasolid formats is that it is rather expensive. However, if and when the customer demand becomes big enough and we believe that our customers are willing to pay for it, then we will consider providing it. In the meanwhile, you can export SAT or STEP from SW and import into RS.

[Quote=jasvap]But more important, being able to export your entire environment after you positioned everything to work correctly with your robot. [/Quote]

This is a feature that we have been discussing whether to include in RS. If the geometry shall be exported we need to add "placeholders" for parts and equipment that lacks geometry data (as you may know, the geometry data may be removed). This is the case for robots, positioners and equipment that comes with RobotStudio. If exporting to a graphics format, everything can be included (VRML, Collada, STL or similar) Do you have any format preference?

 

 

 

 

jasvap

I've been running the software on two platforms, windows 7 and XP. Both systems had the same problem with the memory overload and couldn't open the editor anymore. I've noticed that by saving all my imported files to libs and then again import them in a new project, the problem has solved itself. If I find some time, I can try reproduce the problem and post the error message, but for know I have to much time critical work.

 

Yes I'm talking about the Freehand section of the Home tab, I use it a lot, but I cannot make a keyboard shortcut to change it.

 

I sometimes get the problem when I open the viewer I just created when my station is also open at the same time, then when I want to save the changes in my RobotStudio station and/or I start to rotate the view in RobotStudio, It first starts to lag, and then it gives me the error that RobotStudio is unstabel, if I click yes it exits RobotStudio, if I click No, i can retry, but most of the time, it really is unstable, so I exist and restart without the viewer only with RobotStudio.

 

I really hope RobotStudio will support SolidWorks in the future

 

I prefere the stl format, but if it is possible, step would also be nice

 

Thanks for your reply,

 

If I find some more time, I try to reproduce the error

 

Cu

 

Henrik Berlin

As for memory, RobotStudio is a 32-bit application which means that the amount of RAM RS can address is limited to 3GB. The 3GB limit also holds for 32-bit versions of the operating system. This means that RS, Windows and all other applications you are running, must share 3GB. If you are running Windows 7 32-bit, roughly 1,5 GB would be left for RS.

However, if you are running the 64-bit version of Windows 7, then the OS can address much more RAM if available. This means that RobotStudio can have up to 3GB RAM of its own (up to 4 in fact), if available, after the OS and all other application have allocated the amount of RAM they need.

In conclusion we recommend RobotStudio users that use Windows 7 64-bit to have 6-8 GB of RAM to get the most out of their PC when running RobotStudio, see picture below.

jasvap

Hi,

 

I've been able to solve the problem by removing all geometry. I know it is not possible to export the environment anymore, but it reduced the memory by 1GB ram. Wich makes all the difference.

 

I guess all problems I had were related to the memory, as I don't have the problem anymore that the rapid editor won't start up anymore.

 

Thanks for your replies,

 

Hopefully ABB brings some of the mentioned features in its program in the comming releases.

 

Cu

Henrik Berlin

[Quote=jasvap]I could really use some short cuts to change between world, local, ... instead of having to change it by clicking in the menu bar.[/QUOTE]

Added to the wish list.

[Quote=jasvap]Importing SolidWorks files at once also would be nice, instead of only sat and step files[/QUOTE]

Why not just export SAT from SolidWorks?

jasvap

We can indead import using sat files that were saved by SolidWorks, but saving sat-files with solidworks can take hours and often it crashes.

Also linking to the original geometric file would be much easier as changes to the solidworks file would be addapted directly in RobotStudio as for now we have to do a Save As... - Sat file and overwrite the previous version to make the change happen.

Thanks for adding the shortcut request to the wish list,